Micros guitare, 50 ou 52mm, quelle différence ?

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merepta
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Inscrit le: 29 Jun 13
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Bonjour à tous !
Je me demandais quelles marques faisait un 52mm ou un 50mm, si cela correspondait au f-spaced, ou bien savoir si cela est propre à certains fabricants. Merci !

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Fenson66
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Salut !

Traditionnellement on a deux type d'espacement, les standard qu'on associait à Gibson (tune-o-matic) et les F-Spaced à Fender (vibrato) mais en pratique ce n'est plus une règle.

Côté Humbucker, de nombreuses marques proposent les deux types d'espacement, sans pour autant avoir une norme. Les standard-spaced vont aller de 48 à 50mm, les F-spaced de 51 à 53mm. Côté Single Coil, on sera sur du F-Spaced en général.

En théorie, il sera toujours préférable d'adapter la taille du micro à l'espacement des cordes, mais en pratique ce n'est pas un impératif, une tolérance est applicable sans impact significatif, on évitera juste les extrêmes (mettre un 48mm sur un espacement de 54mm par exemple) .

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tout juste.
J'ai eu de très bons résultats avec certains F-spaced alors que la guitare était sur un espacement standard.
à essayer donc
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The Trout
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Et chez un même fabricant, les valeurs peuvent changer avec le temps aussi.
J'ai un vieux Seymour SH-4 bridge qui date du milieu des 80's, pas F spaced donc ça existait même pas à l'époque et l'espacement est de 48mm. Tous les Seymour bridge non F spaced font 49mm actuellement.

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merci à vous ! c'est car j'ai un capot 52mm, donc grâce à vous je sais que j'ai besoin d'un micro f-spaced !

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L'avis de DiMarzio:

Why are there two different spacings?

A long time ago (in the 20th century, actually) the electric guitar world was divided between Gibson and Fender designs. One of the differences between the two was string spacing. In general, Gibson chose a narrower string spacing at the bridge than Fender, and therefore the polepieces on Gibson humbuckers were closer together than the magnets on Fender pickups. When guitar shops started installing humbuckers in the bridge position of Strats, it was obvious that the strings didn’t line up with the polepieces, and if the E strings were too far outside, the sound could suffer. Our first humbuckers followed the original Gibson spacing, and we call them standard-spaced. When we released our first humbuckers with wider spacing, Floyd Rose bridges were very popular. Floyd string-spacing is the same as Fender spacing, so we naturally called the new pickups F-spaced.
What is F-spacing?

All of our full-size humbuckers except the X2N® and D Activator-X™ are available in two polepiece spacings. F-spacing refers to the wider of the two spacings. For proper string alignment and balanced output, F-spaced humbuckers should be used in the bridge position on all guitars with string spacing at the bridge of 2.1" (53 mm) or greater. On these guitars, if the nut width is 1-11/16” (43 mm) or greater, F-spaced pickups can be used in the neck position as well.
Do standard spaced pickups and F-spaced pickups sound the same?

Yes, they sound the same.

How do I know which spacing to use?

F-spaced pickups measure 2.01" (51 mm) center-to-center from the first polepiece to the sixth. Standard-spaced pickups measure 1.90" (48 mm). Although some players believe that F-spaced pickups are only for the bridge position of tremolo bridge guitars, many guitars with fixed bridges (including post-1998 Gibson® and Epiphone® Les Paul®, SG® and semi-hollow guitars) should have F-spaced pickups in the bridge position. Most tremolo equipped guitars that have a nut width of 1-11/16” (43mm) or more should also use an F-spaced pickup in the neck position. If you’re replacing a bridge-position pickup and you're not sure what your string-spacing is, it's usually better to get an F-spaced model. It is not necessary for the strings to pass exactly over the center of the polepieces for best performance, but it is wise to avoid a situation where the E strings are sitting completely outside of the outer polepieces.

Download our printable String Spacing Template.
https://d2emr0qhzqfj88.cloudfront.net/String%20Spacing%20Template.PDF

Do some of your humbuckers come only in one spacing?

The X2N® and D Activator-X™ have solid bar polepieces that work in both normal and F-spaced applications, so these models have "universal" spacing. All 7-string humbuckers are available F-spaced only. All Parker Fly replacement pickups are F-spaced only.
Is there F-spacing for single-coils?

All of our single-coil-sized pickups are designed for F-spaced applications.

https://www.dimarzio.com/faq

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