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Pour tous ceux qui comme moi, n'avaient pas tout compris aux petites histoires entre Lowden et Avalon, voila un article interessant paru dans "Music and Sound Retailer Magazine"
Comme ça, plus de secret sur cette sombre histoire...


Exit from Avalon
Lowden-Avalon Dispute Hits Climax
by Michelle Loeb

It’s the first thing your parents give to you. It may not always be unique, but it identifies you for the rest of your life. Would you ever sell it away?
Leo Fender did. He became ill and thought he was going to die, so he sold away his company, as well as that most prized possession, his name. The paperwork was clear; his name, Fender, had a new owner, and he couldn't get it back.
However, his story is the exception, rather than the rule. “Knowing many builders, as I do,” said Paul Heumiller, owner of Dream Guitars in Red Bank, NJ, “I would be surprised if a builder would sign away his name.”

George Lowden doesn’t think he did, but you’ll get a different answer if you ask Steve McIlwrath, managing director of Avalon Guitars. The two have been in the midst of a heated battle since the turn of the century regarding the intricacies of an agreement signed in 1989, the year that Lowden's company went into voluntary Chapter 11.

For 16 years, Lowden was contracted to design and approve all guitars made by McIlwrath’s company, and he was paid a royalty for each. Disputes arose as to how closely the designs were being followed, and a lawsuit brought about by Lowden was settled out of court with the dissolution of the licensing agreement.
Since then, the two parties have gone back and forth over who owns the right to use the Lowden name and in which territories. Caught in the crossfire are the dealers and customers who are fans of Avalon guitars, Lowden guitars, or both. Finding out whose designs are available on whose guitars has become a source of confusion in the industry.

Jason Beatty, of Meridian Music in Indianapolis, IN, doesn’t deny his bewilderment. “It was always my impression that the Avalon Lowden guitars were George Lowden guitars,” he said. “It wasn’t until recently that I found out that George really wasn’t involved in the day-to-day operation in that company. I think most of our customers didn’t know either.”

This Name is My Name
“The confusion comes because Avalon is making claims to own the Lowden name—they're making claims to try to own it worldwide,” said Lowden. “I’ve had several emails from individual customers who are confused, and they are writing to me and saying, ‘I was so glad to go on to your website and discover that you are setting up a new Lowden factory, because I had been told by my dealer that there were going to be no more Lowden guitars.’ That’s a story that has happened over and over again.”

McIlwrath would disagree with that statement. From his point of view, it isn’t that he’s using a name he shouldn’t—it’s that Lowden is claiming that his brand carries the same name. “We get frequent phone calls or emails from our dealers in the United States saying they’ve got this communication or that communication from George Lowden, and they want to verify the information he’s giving them.”
In 2003, Lowden had started proceedings to sue Avalon for using a name he didn’t feel belonged to them. Though that particular lawsuit never went to trial, there is a possibility that these actions could lead to the same lawsuit in reverse. McIlwrath did successfully get his U.S. trademark, leaving the door open for future action in America. However, since any future American plans they may have are unbeknownst to Lowden, could he realistically be accused of maliciously interfering with McIlwrath’s business?

According to Beatty, Lowden’s communications were not malicious at all. “The Lowden as we knew it had more or less dissolved,” he remembered. “The first thing that we heard was from Avalon guitars. They said, ‘we’re changing the company. We’re going with a different direction. Our guitars are now called Avalon guitars. Here’s our pricelist. Let us know if you want any.’”

A few weeks later, Lowden sent his correspondence. “They [warned against] falling under the impression that the new Avalon guitars have anything to do with George Lowden, because he is now on his own, making his own guitars,” said Beatty. “There was no encouragement not to buy the other company’s guitars. It was simply an education: he was not involved with that corporation.”

Uncanny Similarities?
Not only are the name changes a source of confusion for dealers and consumers alike, but some dealers feel the guitars even look similar.
Claudia Barry, co-owner of The Music Store in Great Barrington, MA, is a long-time supporter of George Lowden and his designs. Out of curiosity, she brought one Avalon guitar into her store.

“What it looked like to me was a Lowden design from which some of the more extraordinary features had been deleted,” she said. “One of the features of the Lowden guitars is a five-piece neck. It’s probably the strongest acoustic neck in the industry. That had been simplified. The heel, which is gorgeously carved and, again, very dramatically designed, was rounded by Avalon.”
Stan Jay, president and owner of Mandolin Bros. in Staten Island, NY, disagrees with Barry. According to Jay, only one of Avalon’s three lines comes close to resembling a Lowden guitar.

“Avalon makes a Legacy line which, although sharing some appointments with the brand name formerly manufactured by the same supervisors and managers, also differs in significant ways from the Lowden design,” said Jay. “Lowden uses the designation ‘O’ for jumbo, Avalon calls it ‘L.’ Lowden uses the designation ‘F’ for grand auditorium, Avalon has their ‘A.’ The instruments have different bridge designs. They sport a single piece mahogany neck on their Standard range, while Lowden’s continue to have multi-ply.”

Whether or not these differences are enough to separate the two brands in the minds of consumers remains to be seen. George Lowden’s company only recently began supplying its dealers, due in part to holdups coming from the constant arguing and suing back and forth between two men who came together to save a failing company in 1989.

Chapter 11
I had started the new factory in 1985, and by 1987 we were undercapitalizing, running short of funds,” remembered Lowden. It was at that point he decided to enter into voluntary Chapter 11.In the United Kingdom, a declaration of bankruptcy can be either voluntary or involuntary. Had he entered involuntary Chapter 11, the creditor would have taken control, and he wouldn't have had any say over what happened to his company. In electing to go the route of a voluntary declaration, he was able to cooperate with the creditor to find a suitable buyer.
“I had known Andy Kidd for some time, and he had wanted to look at buying the assets of the company from the receiver,” said Lowden. “So the end result of that was Andy Kidd bought stock, which is the wood and some guitars that were there and all of the guitar-building equipment. I have the documentation that shows what he bought and how much he paid for it. Good will is not mentioned, and the name is not mentioned.”

McIlwrath has a slightly different recollection of those events. “In 1989, the Lowden Guitar Company was formed to acquire another company called Lowden Guitars International,” he said. “That was a company that had been established by George Lowden in 1985 but went into Chapter 11 in 1988.”

Though the accounts may sound very similar, the discrepancies in rhetoric set the stage for the long battle ahead. There is a big difference between buying a company’s physical assets and acquiring a brand, and, according to Lowden, the terms of the licensing agreement led him to believe that the trademark was not part of the deal.

Mind Your Language
There are two or three clauses that deal particularly with the Lowden name, which are pretty clear,” said Lowden. “First of all, they say that the company, in 1989, agreed to pay me a royalty for any product bearing the name Lowden. There was also another clause where they agreed to pay me a royalty for all such products of my design. That’s very clear that you don't pay a royalty to someone for a name if you yourself own it.”

“If I own a house,” Lowden continued, “and somebody comes to me and says, ‘Well, let me use it for a while and rent it, but whenever I stop renting it I own it,’ it’s a joke.”

In return for the two royalties, Lowden had final approval over the company’s guitars, whether they were his own designs or otherwise. The owners agreed to follow his designs or get his permission before changing them. Lowden was also not allowed to set up his own company to manufacture his guitars.

The thin ice on which the agreement was made soon began to crack. “One of the problems that we had is that during the entire 16-year life of the contract, we never actually received any complete designs from him,” said McIlwrath. “Therefore, it was impossible to determine exactly what the designs were with any degree of accuracy. When we requested designs for new models, invariably we never got them or we developed them with some of our own luthiers and got his approval on them.”

Lowden denies such claims. “When they began to disregard [the obligations stated in the licensing agreement], and I raised the issues with them in the way you would normally, instead of them rectifying the situation, they did the opposite,” he said. “They refused to talk to me basically about the issues.”

These issues included changes that Lowden has specifically voiced opposition towards. “On every single Lowden guitar they’ve made for the past four years, they changed the internal truss rod to one that I had specifically said that I did not want used. I can’t have that.” He continued, “If my name’s on the headstock, and it is my design from start to finish, then they have an obligation to follow that design.”

Battle Lines Drawn
In 2001, Lowden instigated a lawsuit against Avalon Guitars—at that time the holding company under which the Lowden Guitar Company was traded—for infringement of contract, which was set to be heard in Belfast high court.

“He was alleging that we were not following the design specifications for his guitars,” said McIlwrath. “Now, we vehemently refuted that, because we had not changed anything from the design aspects of the guitar that we had been following all throughout that period.”

Had the trial gone ahead as planned, perhaps the issues involving the designs and to whom they belonged would’ve been settled then and there. It is unclear when McIlwrath states that the company stuck to the designs if he is referring to Lowden’s designs. If, in fact, he was talking about Lowden’s designs, his claim that he hadn’t yet received a full design from Lowden could be called into question. If he was not referring to Lowden’s designs, he could very well have been found to be in breach of contract for using designs that were not his or approved by him. The case was withdrawn before going to trial.

“I was informed by my lawyers a couple of weeks before the court case that if I won the court case, there’s a strong possibility that I would be worse off actually than if I settled out of court,” Lowden explained. “Avalon Guitar Company was, and to my understanding still is, strapped for cash. If they had been faced with a large legal bill, which they would’ve been, if I had won the case, they would have gone into liquidation. I would’ve been perceived to put this company into liquidation through legal action.”

Not only concerned with the potential damage to his reputation, Lowden realized that he would’ve been stuck with a bigger legal bill if he let the trial commence. “If I had been dealing with a strong company financially,” he said, “it would’ve been different.”
The two parties negotiated and decided at that point to terminate their licensing agreement.

“We decided at that point that we didn’t want to have George Lowden design guitars for us,” said McIlwrath. “That, of course, was mutual, because he was not in the frame of mind to want to design guitars for us anyway. What the termination of the agreement permitted him to do was manufacture guitars and be able to employ people in pursuit of that activity.”

Messy Breakup
Unfortunately, the clean break both sides were hoping for was far from their grasp. “All they ever had was a license to use it,” said Lowden, speaking of the company name. “Therefore, when the license was terminated, their ability to use it, or their lawful use of it, was terminated also.”

As part of the original licensing agreement, the Lowden Guitar Company agreed that upon termination of the agreement, the company would “immediately cease manufacturing any guitars made to the designer’s design or any design modified with the approval of the designer.” Additionally, the company was expected to “cease selling…any other products bearing the designer’s name other than products on which royalties are paid.”



“I took that at face value,” said George Lowden, who read the clause to mean the company was not able to sell guitars bearing his designs or name anywhere in the world. Steve McIlwrath had other ideas.

“What we agreed to do was not trade as Lowden Guitars in the U.K.,” said McIlwrath, “so we had to find another name for the company. We have two companies, one called Avalon and one called Lowden. Lowden Guitar Company was the trading company, and Avalon was the holding company, so what we did was we flipped those two names so that Avalon became the trading company and Lowden became the holding company.”

By November 2003, the two parties were set to go to court yet again. Lowden had brought another lawsuit against Avalon claiming trademark infringement.

“I instigated legal proceedings against the company to stop them from appropriating the Lowden Guitar Company name to another company they owned because they had agreed to give up the Lowden company name,” Lowden said, referring to the termination agreement that was finalized in February 2003.

Again, the case never went to trial. “I withdrew from that case [because of a] letter that I received and an affidavit signed by them in which they said that they had no intention whatsoever of using the Lowden company name and that their only purpose in taking it was to stop me from selling that company name or using that company name,” Lowden said. “They wrote that they had no intention of using it and that they were going to make that company a dormant company.”

Avalon didn’t want George Lowden to use the company name based on his own name? Once again, Lowden took these statements at face value when it may have been in his best interest to pursue the lawsuit. Given that rhetoric, he may have been setting the stage for the point at which the companies are currently. Avalon has a United States trademark of the Lowden name while George Lowden is looking to distribute the first batch of guitars from his new company, the Lowden Guitar Workshop.

Confused Yet?
Should it come to pass that a lawsuit comes out of the companies’ American activities, the answer is hardly clear as to who would win. Given that the wording of the contract was so vague, perhaps deliberately so, the verdict would come down to the state in which the trial is held. The judge would look back at the precedent set in that particular state to see how a similar dispute was resolved. If McIlwrath was to pursue Lowden in the United States, he would have to find the state where past judgments best mirrored his own intended outcome.

In the meantime, the battle over the Lowden name continues. As Shakespeare wrote in Romeo and Juliet, “That which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet.” Does that apply to the guitar industry as well?

“Even if [George] calls it XYZ Guitars, they can’t prevent him from using his own name in all of their advertising and whatnot,” said Beatty. “I think George has the upper hand, because he’s the guy who people identify with that instrument. It may hurt him in the short run that he’s not able to put his own name on the guitars, but I think, in the long run, people will always know what guitars he himself is building.”
While Lowden sees that that may be the case, he isn’t interested in protecting his right to use his own name as much as he is in protecting his name against misuse by others. “I am very concerned that anybody, whether it be Avalon or anybody else, should try and take ownership of a name that doesn’t belong to them and never has belonged to them,” said Lowden. “They could do anything with it. They could go to China and get cheap guitars and put the Lowden name on it. If that happened, there would be serious damage to the Lowden name. I’m certainly not going to sit back and allow 30 years of my work to disappear into the hands of corporate U.K. or corporate America.”

Who Wins?
Heumiller doesn’t care who wins the name in the end, as long as the guitars survive the battles. “I have nothing against either side,” he said. “I just want to see good guitars and help people find them. I’d hate to see delays for my own purposes, but also for the guitar world.”

“The result of the recent litigation is that now we shall have two fine companies to do business with,” said Jay, seconding Heumiller’s point. “The consumer now has a choice of products; we get to represent two superb brands. From our standpoint, everyone benefits.”

Claudia Barry disagrees with the idea that everyone comes out a winner. What she would like to see is Avalon develop its own place in the market and leave the Lowden legacy where it is.

“I think Avalon guitars are lovely instruments, and there is a niche for them,” she said. “I sold only that one that we had a chance to see, and the seller who bought it has come into my store every year and said, ‘So are you getting anymore Avalon guitars?’ So clearly, I don't think they need his name.”

She continued, “I think it’s a very bad idea and, from my point of view, is below the dignity of what has been a very dignified and reasonable company to try to continue to use his name without permission. I think that’s just not very classy at all.”

As Sean Barry, co-owner of The Music Store with his wife, recalled, there have been other instances of companies stepping out of the shadows of their former owners and becoming successful in their own right. About five years ago, the Gibson Guitar Company moved its operations from Arizona to Tennessee. The 13 employees at that factory got together and decided they didn’t want to leave their homes. As a result, Gibson found a new crew, and the group of 13 luthiers formed Weber Mandolin Company.

“They didn’t put Gibson on the headstock,” said Barry. “They put Weber. And they have created a niche for themselves in the hearts and the hands of fine musicians. They don't have to say, ‘I used to work for Gibson.’ They say, ‘I work for Weber.’”
“Avalon Guitars doesn’t need to be another George Bush,” Sean Barry continued. “This isn’t a political statement, but George Bush was identified with his father. So a lot of people who voted for the father voted for the son, but the son has a whole different lifestyle, a whole different perspective than the father does. We can’t expect to benefit by our father’s actions. Avalon doesn’t need to have George Lowden’s reputation. They need to establish their own.”

Should Avalon get in the way of George Lowden’s legacy and livelihood, Claudia Barry knows just what he should do. “I would think it would be a very good time for George to find an absolutely marvelous, equally elegant, but much more outgoing PR person to inform the world about what has happened,” she said.
“Ultimately, the educated consumer and the educated music store owner will collaborate to make sure that people are actually buying what they think they're buying.”

McIlwrath, like Lowden, is willing to fight with every last breath to defend what he considers to be his property. However, he holds out hope that a final resolution can be reached without a long, drawn-out court battle that may rack up hefty bills and drag reputations through the mud on both sides.

“I have to say that our desire in this is not to go and litigate,” he said. “We would rather have not had to deal with it in this way, and if we can resolve it in an amicable way, that would be our preference. We’re not gung ho about wanting to ride up into the courtroom, because I can assure you we’re not. The only people who win in that situation seem to be the attorneys and the lawyers.”
Weissy
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    Weissy
    le 13 Jun 05, 11:22
oh yes it is very good but i didn't understand at all
Wakizashi
Il aurait mieux valu faire un petit résumé
wilfried
HouseOfStrings a écrit :
Il aurait mieux valu faire un petit résumé


je pense à ceux qui s'emmerdent au boulot, ça leur fait un peu de lecture interessante pour la journée.
Maikel
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    Maikel
    le 14 Dec 05, 16:44
wilfried a écrit :
HouseOfStrings a écrit :
Il aurait mieux valu faire un petit résumé


je pense à ceux qui s'emmerdent au boulot, ça leur fait un peu de lecture interessante pour la journée.


Allez cést bientot Noel je m'y colles.

Je faisais une petite recherche et je me suis preter au jeu de resumé
un peu l'histoire.
Mes sources d'infos sont l'article, le site d'Avalon et le site de
Lowden

1989:Georges Lowden est dans la muise financierement. Il se met
volontairement en banque route, ce qui lui permet de negocier un arrangement.

Les futurs patron d'Avalon rachete le stock de bois et les guitares et
selon Georges ni le nom ni le savoir faire.

Georges reste employe de "la nouvelle firme Lowden" comme superviseur technique pour les specs de grattes et
la qualités.
Il touche des royalty sur ce qui porte son nom sortant de l'usine
(guitare et autres). Ce dernier point le renforce dans l'idée que le nom
Lowden est bien a lui puisqu'on lui verse des royalties. Fin 99 georges en
a marre car le racheteurs veulent changer les specs des guitares et
cela ne lui plait pas. Il ne veut pas donner son accord. On arrete tout.
Proces et tout le bazar

Du coté, des racheteurs on dit que depuis 89 Georges n'a jamais fourni
une doc complete pour les specs de guitares. En gros il l'accuse de
retention d'informations.

Bref Georges veut les envoyer chier et creer sa boite qui s'appelera
Lowden. les futurs patrons d Avalon dit que Lowden c'est eux.

Ca castagne un peu. Ca va au tribunal. Ca se rend compte que ca va
couter cher et que la reputation et donc la perenitté financiere des 2
protagonistes pourrait en prendre un coup. Donc il arrive +- a un accord.
Les dissidents de Georges qui avait creer avalon a línterieur de Lowden (c ést image) intevertices les deux noms et cést donc Avalon qui englobe a present la compagnie Lowden mais ils assurent qu'ils ne vont pas utiliser le nom Lowden mais bien avalon

Au niveaux grattes :

Avalon

http://www.avalon.co.uk

Silver series : table massive, dos et cotés laminés. fabriquées en
corée

Gold series : toutes massive, une partie fabriquée en Irlande et une
autre partie fabriquée chez Furch en Tchequie (oui je sais cést bizarre...cfr le forum dÁvalon). Ils ont stoppé la
finition tip top en irlande il y a un an. C'est seulement en Tchequie qu'on
le fait maintenant. En Irlande ils ne font plus que le "satin finnish".
Le barrage est completement different des Lowden d'avant 99.


Legacy Standard : On se rapproche des Lowden d'avant 2000. Le manche
est en 2 parties.

Legacy premier : On se rapproche encore des Lowden d'avant 2000 avec
le manche en 5 parties.

Pour les legacy, je crois qu'au niveau du barrages ce n'est pas le
Dolphin profile d'origine mais un autre propose par le plus ancien
collaborateur de Georges dans les annees 90 et qui a remplacer le Dolphin Profile jusqu'en 2000


Georges Lowden
http://www.georgelowden.com

Georges a recrée une boite qui porte son nom qui fait d'une part des
modeles haut de gammes avec les anciennes specs non alterées : le manche
en 5 parties, le barrage dolphine profile d'origine. A cote de cela. Il
joue aussi au luthier independant pour faire du tres haut de gamme en
parrallele de la boite.


Maintenant pour les puristes, je dirais que sans doutes seul Lowden
fait des vraies Lowden. C'est un peu logique. ;-)
Pour les moins puristes a la recherche de ce son caracteristique les
Avalons legacy doivent le faire.Cependant des petits details de
constructions et des barrages differents doivent sans doutes avoir une incidence sur le son. En bien ou en mal c ést selon les gouts de chacun

Pour ceux a la recherche d'un son different mais qui n'aurait a mon
sens pas le son mythique Lowden, les Gold series doivent etre de la bonne came. Surtout a l'ecoute de celle de Stotzem que j'ai vu en concert a plusieurs reprises. Elle a un son plus serre, un peu plus americain

Pour ceux qui ont des problemes de budget, les coreennes sont
abordables. Perso jái essaye une cedre pallissandre coreenne jái pas aime. Pour ce qui est du cedre je prefere une seagull dans cette gamme de prix la

Je base cette analyse sur l'ecoute de Jacques Stotzem d'Eric Roche et
divers samples sur le net et de quelques essais aussi bien entendu

Voila....a peu pres...
tounez
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    tounez
    le 14 Dec 05, 19:39
Bel effort ! (intéressant en plus...)
Maikel
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  • Publié par
    Maikel
    le 17 Dec 05, 11:49
De rien

En guise de complement d'informations voici la liste des prix catalogue d'Avalon en Euros MAIS HORS TVA

AVALON GUITARS EURO € (Ex. TAX) RETAIL PRICE JANUARY 2005


AVALON LEGACY SERIES STANDARD RANGE

MODEL BODY SELECT SOLID TONE WOOD RETAIL
10 L/A/S MAHOGANY/RED CEDAR 2150
10C L/A/S MAHOGANY/RED CEDAR 2399
12 L/A/S/D MAHOGANY/SITKA SPRUCE 2150
12C L/A/S/D MAHOGANY/SITKA SPRUCE 2399
12/12 L/A/S/D MAHOGANY/SITKA SPRUCE 2399
12C/12 L/A/S/D MAHOGANY/SITKA SPRUCE 2699
25 L/A/S/D ROSEWOOD/RED CEDAR 2150
25C L/A/S/D ROSEWOOD/RED CEDAR 2399
25 JAZZ* A/S ROSEWOOD/RED CEDAR 2795
32 L/A/S/D ROSEWOOD/SITKA SPRUCE 2150
32C L/A/S/D ROSEWOOD/SITKA SPRUCE 2399
32/12 L/A/S/D ROSEWOOD/SITKA SPRUCE 2399
32C/12 L/A/S/D ROSEWOOD/SITKA SPRUCE 2699
32 JAZZ* A/S ROSEWOOD/SITKA SPRUCE 2795
CARL VERHEYEN SIGNATURE* ROSEWOOD/SITKA SPRUCE 2795
AVALON “GREEN” 2005 EDITION MAHOGANY/SITKA SPRUCE 2599

* ELECTRO-ACOUSTIC MODELS EQUIPPED WITH PICKUP SYSTEM AS STANDARD


AVALON LEGACY SERIES PREMIER RANGE

MODEL BODY SELECT SOLID TONE WOOD RETAIL
310/315 L/A/S/D AMAZAQUE/SITKA SPRUCE OR RED CEDAR 2499
310C/315C L/A/S/D AMAZAQUE/SITKA SPRUCE OR RED CEDAR 2899
320/325 L/A/S/D ROSEWOOD/SITKA SPRUCE OR RED CEDAR 2499
320C/325C L/A/S/D ROSEWOOD/SITKA SPRUCE OR RED CEDAR 2899
330/335 L/A/S/D WALNUT/SITKA SPRUCE OR RED CEDAR 2499
330C/335C L/A/S/D WALNUT/SITKA SPRUCE OR RED CEDAR 2899
340 L/A/S/D QUILTED MAPLE/SITKA SPRUCE 2799
340C L/A/S/D QUILTED MAPLE/SITKA SPRUCE 3199
350/355 L/A/S/D BLACKWOOD/SITKA SPRUCE OR RED CEDAR 2799
350C/355C L/A/S/D BLACKWOOD/SITKA SPRUCE OR RED CEDAR 3199
360 L/A/S/D MYRTLE/SITKA SPRUCE 2799
360C L/A/S/D MYRTLE/SITKA SPRUCE 3199
370/375 L/A/S/D KOA/SITKA SPRUCE OR RED CEDAR 2799
370C/375C L/A/S/D KOA/SITKA SPRUCE OR RED CEDAR 3199
380/385 L/A/S/D COCOBOLA/SITKA SPRUCE OR RED CEDAR 2799
380C/385C L/A/S/D COCOBOLA/SITKA SPRUCE OR RED CEDAR 3199
FINGERSTYLE A/S ROSEWOOD/SITKA SPRUCE OR RED CEDAR 4150
GOLDEN GATE JAZZ MONTEREY CYPRESS/ENGLEMAN SPRUCE 2379
800/805 L/A/S/D CERTIFIED BRAZILIAN ROSEWOOD
SITKA SPRUCE OR RED CEDAR 5999
800C/8005C L/A/S/D CERTIFIED BRAZILIAN ROSEWOOD
SITKA SPRUCE OR RED CEDAR 6699




AVALON GUITARS EURO € (Ex. TAX) RETAIL PRICE JANUARY 2005


AVALON GOLD SERIES

MODEL BODY SELECT SOLID TONE WOOD RETAIL
100 L/A/S/D MAHOGANY/SITKA SPRUCE 1360
100E L/A/S/D MAHOGANY/SITKA SPRUCE 1575
100CE L/A/S/D MAHOGANY/SITKA SPRUCE 1915
100/12 L/A/S/D MAHOGANY/SITKA SPRUCE 1620
100CE/12 L/A/S/D MAHOGANY/SITKA SPRUCE 2130
101 L/A/S/D MAHOGANY/RED CEDAR 1360
101E L/A/S/D MAHOGANY/RED CEDAR 1575
101CE L/A/S/D MAHOGANY/RED CEDAR 1915
200 L/A/S/D ROSEWOOD/SITKA SPRUCE 1700
200E L/A/S/D ROSEWOOD/SITKA SPRUCE 1915
200CE L/A/S/D ROSEWOOD/SITKA SPRUCE 2215
200/12 L/A/S/D ROSEWOOD/SITKA SPRUCE 2000
200CE/12 L/A/S/D ROSEWOOD/SITKA SPRUCE 2470
201 L/A/S/D ROSEWOOD/RED CEDAR 1700
201E L/A/S/D ROSEWOOD/RED CEDAR 1915
201CE L/A/S/D ROSEWOOD/RED CEDAR 2215
JACQUES STOTZEM * ROSEWOOD/SITKA SPRUCE 2350

AVALON GOLD ELECTRO-ACOUSTIC ‘CE’ MODELS EQUIPPED WITH FISHMANï€ ïƒ¢ PREFIX PRO SYSTEM AS STANDARD. * JS MODEL EQUIPPED WITH PREFIX STEREO BLEND

AVALON SILVER SERIES

MODEL BODY SELECT TONE WOOD RETAIL
AS100 A MAHOGANY/SOLID SITKA SPRUCE 599
AS100CE A MAHOGANY/SOLID SITKA SPRUCE 750
DS100 D MAHOGANY/SOLID SITKA SPRUCE 599
DS100E D MAHOGANY/SOLID SITKA SPRUCE 750
AS101 A MAHOGANY/SOLID RED CEDAR 599
AS101CE A MAHOGANY/SOLID RED CEDAR 750
AS200 A ROSEWOOD/SOLID SITKA SPRUCE 650
AS200CE A ROSEWOOD/SOLID SITKA SPRUCE 799
DS200 D ROSEWOOD/SOLID SITKA SPRUCE 650
DS200E D ROSEWOOD/SOLID SITKA SPRUCE 799
AS201 A ROSEWOOD/SOLID RED CEDAR 849
AS201CE A ROSEWOOD/SOLID RED CEDAR 975
L100CE* L MAHOGANY/SOLID SITKA SPRUCE 750
L101CE* L MAHOGANY/SOLID RED CEDAR 750
L200CE* L ROSEWOOD/SOLID SITKA SPRUCE 799
L201CE* L ROSEWOOD/SOLID RED CEDAR 799

AVALON GOLD ELECTRO -ACOUSTIC ‘E’ & ‘CE’ MODELS EQUIPPED WITH FISHMANï€ ïƒ¢ PREFIX PLUS SYSTEM AS STANDARD
*L MODELS AVAILABLE FROM OCTOBER 2005

AVALON GUITARS € RETAIL PRICE JAN 2005

OPTIONS & ACCESSORIES

PICKUP SYSTEMS RETAIL
FISHMAN ACOUSTIC MATRIX (NO EXTERNAL CONTROLS) 295
FISHMAN PREFIX PRO (WITH ON-BOARD CONTROLS) 395
FISHMAN PREFIX PRO BLEND (WITH ON-BOARD CONTROLS) 395
NECK OPTIONS RETAIL
NECK WIDTH CHANGE: 1 11/16 (43mm), 1 3/4 (45mm) OR 1 15/16 (48mm) 155
SLOTTED HEADSTOCK 230
WOOD BOUND FINGERBOARD 270
TONEWOOD OPTIONS RETAIL
BRAZILIAN ROSEWOOD BACK & SIDES (MODELS 25,32 AND 320 ONLY) 4960
ENGLEMANN SPRUCE SOUNDBOARD 200
GERMAN SPRUCE SOUNDBOARD 220
REDWOOD SOUNDBOARD 220
INLAY OPTIONS RETAIL
FINGERBOARD DOT INLAY 230
FINGERBOARD DIAMOND INLAY 280
FINGERBOARD CUSTOM INLAY INQUIRE
HEADSTOCK CELTIC KNOT INLAY 500
SOUNDBOARD ABALONE INLAY 715
ACCESSORIES RETAIL
HARD SHELL FLIGHT CASE 200
NATURAL LEATHER GUITAR STRAP WITH AVALON LOGO N/A

• ALL MODELS EQUIPPED WITH D’ADDARIO EXP 16 EXTENDED PLAY STRINGS
• LIMITED LIFETIME WARRANTY APPLICABLE ON ALL LEGACY & GOLD SERIES MODELS
• LEGACY AND GOLD SERIES LEFT HAND MODELS AVAILABLE AT NO EXTRA COST
• PRICES INCLUDE HARDSHELL CASE FOR AVALON LEGACY AND GOLD SERIES
• PRICES AND SPECIFICATIONS SUBJECT TO CHANGE WITHOUT NOTICE

CONTACT INFORMATION

SALES OFFICE AVALON GUITARS LTD.
8 GLENFORD WAY
NEWTOWNARDS BT23 4BX
N. IRELAND. UK
TEL: +44-28-9182-0542
FAX: +44-28-9182-0650


INTERNET EMAIL: info@avalonguitars.com
WEB: www.avalonguitars.com

EURO € (Ex. TAX) RETAIL PRICE JANUARY 2005

Si vous voulez comparer avec les prix Lowden, il y a la liste de prix sur leur site mais en livres sterling et avec les 17,5% compris.
A vous de faire de savants calculs pour transposer tout cela en Euros et en prix TVA incluses.

Les Lowden sont plus chers si on compare la Lowden standard a l'Avalon Legacy Standard ou la Lowden premier a l'Avalon legacy premier. Toutefois, il faut voir les degres de finitions et de qualité. Par exemple la Lowden de base a le manche en 5 parties et coute +- 2900 Euros, alors que pour avoir un manche en 5 parties sur les Avalon, il faut prendre dans la serie Legacy Premier et la c'est plutot 3200 Euros.
J'aurais peut-etre bientot des details techniques sur les barrages des differents modeles Avalon. A suivre donc... Enfin peut-etre.


Pour les sons des Avalons il y a des samples ici

http://www.avalonguitars.co.uk(...)isten

Perso j'adore la L25 cedre+pallissandre. C'est du chocolat noir chaud qui coule sur une poire moelleuse...
Amsterdam
Comme il y a un topic sur le choix d'une guitare "Irish Folk" en ce moment je me suis dit que de faire remonter ce topic à la surface n'était à priori pas une mauvaise idée !

D'ailleurs je serais curieux de savoir où peut-on bien trouver ces guitares "Avalon" sur le net et même en "vrai" ?
J'ai beau chercher... Je ne trouve pas !
Les paroles sincères manquent souvent d'élégance, les paroles élégantes sont rarement sincères. - Lao Tseu

[VDS] Hugues & Kettner Edition Blue 60R [100€ FDP OUT]
Cörona


Je ne connais pas Avalon.

Par contre, j'ai une Lowden


EDIT : j'espère ne pas avoir été trop bref

En ce moment sur guitare acoustique et électro et Lowden...