A la recherche d'une pedale pr dire straits

Alex1209
Je cherche une pédale ou plusieurs, pr me rapprocher du son dire straits, j'ne cherche aussi pr celui de Slash.
Merci d'avance pr vos réponses.
(pas de limites de prix, en restant ds le raisonnable qd meme ^^)
amnesia2
difficile à dire....mais pour rester dans un budget raisonnable une od1 ou une SD1 en boost sur un bon clair.
Alex1209
Ok merci bcp, je pense prendre la SD 1.
Et sinon comme bonne wah wah, la signature jimi hendrix apporte bcp plus par rapport a la basique de dunlop ?
dhaiphi
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Alex1209 a écrit :
Je cherche une pédale ou plusieurs, pr me rapprocher du son dire straits


Compresseur, overdrive léger et micros simples (position midle/bridge).
Sauvez un eucalyptus, mangez un koala !
Alex1209
ok super merci bcp
brui2fon
Alex1209 a écrit :
Je cherche une pédale ou plusieurs, pr me rapprocher du son dire straits, j'ne cherche aussi pr celui de Slash.
Merci d'avance pr vos réponses.
(pas de limites de prix, en restant ds le raisonnable qd meme ^^)


salut
pr dire straits c plutot du son clean
ou alors leger OD genre ts 9/808

pr slash j ai une ibanez tube king ht a vendre qui peut ptete correspondre
mais je trouve que la video demontre pas assez toutes les possibilités de la pedale

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Ben.oît
Comment peut-on définir "LE" son de Dire Straits? C'est une blague cette question!

Tu proposerais un morceau en particulier, ok mais là un son pour le groupe c'est saugrenu.

Twiting by the pool sonne exactement pareil que Money for Nothing ou Brother in Arms, Sultans of Swing...

On doit pas parler du même groupe.
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lol4
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Clair !

C'est comme demander à un cuisinier de te donner LA recette de toutes ses recettes...
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Alex1209
autant pr moi ^^ c'est vrai que c'est pas tres clair, je pensais plutot a fade to black.
palekunin


Le Vox Bulldog Distorsion est une pédale polyvalente. En overdrive, le son est crémeux et velouté ce qui se marie bien sur un canal clair.
SoulBoogaloo
Effectivement, c'est difficile de faire une généralité du son de Mark Knopfler!
Sur Fade to Black, micros simples en position neck, et pour la saturation, en fait avec Mark Knopfler c'est souvent plus sioux : contrairement à ce qu'on pense, il joue plutôt sur des amplis à gain élevé, mais il en tire des sons presque cleans, juste en jouant avec le volume de sa gratte, et surtout avec son attaque main droite, très subtile!
Le site de mon groupe : http://www.thesoulmates.fr
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Ben.oît a écrit :
Comment peut-on définir "LE" son de Dire Straits? C'est une blague cette question!

Tu proposerais un morceau en particulier, ok mais là un son pour le groupe c'est saugrenu.

Twiting by the pool sonne exactement pareil que Money for Nothing ou Brother in Arms, Sultans of Swing...

On doit pas parler du même groupe.


+1

En plus dans le genre tout son son vient de ses doigts on fait difficilement pire!

La première chose avant d'acheter une pédale est d'apprendre le finger picking et de le maitriser : knopfler est un maître en la matière
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Alex1209
Ben justement son style j'arrive a m'en approcher, mais il me manque le son ^^
Ben.oît
Oui mais il a précisé sur Face to black par la suite.


Je ne suis pas sûr que ce soit un micro simple. J'entends plutôt une Les Paul avec un micro manche qu'une strat. Il faudra jouer sur le bouton de volume pour ne pas avoir trop de patate avec le double, mais suffisamment pour faire sangloter les notes.


Il jouait aussi avec sa Pensa à cette époque et ce sont des micros que je ne connais pas du tout (c'est un de mes rêve cette guitare).

Un ampli extrêmement clair, droit, brillant. Oui mais lequel???

Fender Vibrolux???
Soldano???


Trouvé sur le net
Amps
1976
Selmer 2 x 12 tube amp with the Cafe Racers

1977
Fender Vibrolux, early sixties, brown, one 12" speaker, about 30 Watts
Mark still owns it, it was used on the Golden Heart album.
You can hear this amp on the CD bootleg Early Demos.

1978
Debut Album :
Fender Twin Reverb, silver face
Roland Jazz Chorus
Fender Vibrolux, early sixties, brown, one 12" speaker, about 30 Watts
live:
January
Fender Concert Amp, blackface, 4 x 10"
Fender Vibrolux, early sixties, brown, one 12" speaker, about 30 Watts
May
Fender Twin Reverb, silverface
June
Fender Twin Reverb, silver face, with Marshall 4 x 12" cabinets
end of 1978
two Fender Twin Reverbs, silver face,
or Music Man HD 130, 2 x 12", 130 Watts

1979
early 1979
Music Man HD 130, 2 x 12", 130 Watts
from July on
Music Man HD 130, 2 x 12", 130 Watts
Music Man HD 130, 2 x 12", 130 Watts, JBL speakers (most likely D120 or K120)

1980-81
early 1980 (BBC Arena documentary)
Music Man HD 130, 2 x 12", 130 Watts
Music Man HD 130, 2 x 12", 130 Watts, JBL speakers (most likely D120 or K120)
on Making Movies (album & tour)
two Music Man HD 130, 2 x 12", 130 Watts, played over Marshall 4 x 12" cabinets

1982-84
Love over Gold album
Mesa Boogie heads with Marshall 4 x 12" cabinets, equipped with Electro Voice speakers
Marshall head
live
Mesa Boogie heads with Marshall 4 x 12" cabinets, equipped with Electro Voice speakers

1985-86
Brothers in Arms album
Mesa Boogie heads with Marshall 4 x 12" cabinets, equipped with Electro Voice speakers
Marshall JTM on track Brothers in Arms
Jim Kelley combo amp with an EVM12L
live
Mesa Boogie heads with Marshall 4 x 12" cabinets, equipped with Electro Voice speakers
or Jim Kelly heads with Marshall 4 x 12" cabinets, equipped with Electro Voice speakers

1987-89
most likely same setup as before
Gallien & Krueger amps on the Willy DeVille album Miracle
from Randy Newman's Land of Dreams on:
Soldano SLO 100 with Marshall 4 x 12" cabinets, equipped with Electro Voice speakers

1990-92
live and studio:
two Soldano SLO 100 with Marshall 4 x 12" cabinets, equipped with Electro Voice speakers
on the album On Every Street some old Fender amps as well

1996
album Golden Heart
Soldano SLO 100 with Marshall 4 x 12" cabinets, equipped with Electro Voice speakers
Fender Vibrolux, early sixties, brown, one 12" speaker, about 30 Watts
Crate VC5212, 50 Watts, 2 x 12" speakers
live:
two Soldano SLO 100 with Marshall 4 x 12" cabinets, equipped with Electro Voice speakers
or
two Crate VC5212 with Marshall 4 x 12" cabinets, equipped with Electro Voice speakers

Today he still uses many of the amps he has used for the past 30 years, but live he uses two Komet ?The Komet? heads with red Marshall 4x12? cabs. The heads are around 50W.
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Effects
Mark is pretty well known to not change his tone a great deal with effects. He usually uses a combination of compression, volume pedals and chorus and similar, clean, effects.
During the first few years, it is SAID that he used a Dan Armstrong Orange Squeezer when recording (i.e. on the first album). The sound engineer for this album said he was ?in love with Roland Chorus devices?, which would probably be true as he used the chorus on his cleans (most noticeable on Lions). Live he used a Morley Volume pedal and an MXR delay. The Morley was used for creating bow type sounds. The thing about the Morley is that even when fully open it still rounded out the sound of the guitar (due to the 66K impedance on the input). The MXR had a true bypass, that, when depressed sent the unchanged signal to the amp, with no change in the tone whatsoever.
During 1979 he began to use a Nady Transmitter, which affected his tone quite a bit (especially live when he would normally use long cables). Because the cable length between the guitar and the transmitter is very short, and the same at the other side of the receiver, the tone during performances around that time were considerably brighter.

These are the setups he typically used throughout the 80s and early 90s:

1980/81
Customized rack comprising:
Deltalab Delay Unit
Flanger
Master R Reverb
Roland Equalizer
Mantec Switch Unit
Roland Choms Echo
Mantec Preamp
2 Main Transformers
Morley Volume Pedal
Mantec Remote Switching Unit
Nady guitar transmitter

1985/86
Custom rack including:
Roland SRE 555 Chorus/Echo
Delt Lab Digital Delay
Mic-Mix Dyna-Flanger
Master Room Reverb Unit
Roland Graphic EQ
Ibanez UE 303 Multi Effect
A variety of Boss pedals, including:
CE 300 Chorus
DM 2 Delay
CS 2 Compressor
Two CE 2 Chorus
BF 2 Flanger
PH 2 Phaser
OC 2 Octaver

1991/92
Custom system built by Pete Cornish, including:
TC 2290 Delay
Alesis Quadraverb
Boss Super Chorus CE 300
Zoom Multieffect 9010
Yamaha REV 5 (reverb)
two TC-Equalizers/Preamps (for the National and Ramirez guitars)
Wah Wah (Money for Nothing), integrated into the rack system
Earney Ball Volume Pedal
Sony Wireless system

1996
Ron Eve:

"When Mark and I discussed what equipment he would be using for the tour, we decided that although the Crate Vintage 50w combo amp had served exceptionally well in the studio, operationally there would be problems on stage. There was no way to smoothly and quickly change guitars and set up new sounds for each song, even using two combos. So Mark decided to use a cut-down version of the set-up from the last Dire Straits tour (On Every Street). He wanted to use the two Soldano 100 Lead heads but without the Marshall/EV speaker cabinets and Pete Cornish effects rack. He was keen to try using 2 x 12 cabinets, again with EV speakers and a simple FX set-up comprising "some expensive delay and reverb..." and a footswitch. The final arrangement consisted of an Ernie Ball volume pedal, Active Lead, 2 Soldano amp heads (alternating A/B), 2 Hughes & Kettner 2 x 12 cabinets (loaded with EV's), TC2290 delay unit, Lexicon 300 reverb unit, MXR micro amp and a TC 0144 footswitch. The Crate combos will be used for back-up. The TC 2290 was used as the main controller and MIDI'd to the Lexicon, with the Lexicon patched through one of the loops; the MXR was hooked through another loop, to provide a clean boost and a footswitch assigned to toggle it in/out. Another switch was assigned to toggle the repeat (delay) on/off. As rehearsals progressed, patches containing each songs' effects set-up were assigned to various presets (switchable from the TC0144). Tone settings for each song were set up on the Soldanos with the aim of switching amps between each song. Fast segues between songs can be accomodated in this way."
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