_Hazard_ a écrit :
Les mesures dont tu parles (de l'équipe américaine) ne sont pas cités dans l'article que tu as posté. Donc si tu veux t'expliquer
tu devrais dire où tu as trouvé cette information.
En fait il faut comprendre
1- je ne m'interesse absolument pas à ce bout de tissus. C'est ta façon de présenter les choses plus que tendancieuse (et donc ascientifique) qui m'a fait réagir.
2- même si on prouve qu'il a été fait en l'an 0, il faudrait encore prouver qu'il s'agit du suaire d'un certain Jesus de Nazareth (c'est pas gagné).
3- c'est l'église en l'occurence qui me semble avoir une position plus cartésienne que la tienne (toujours au vu de ce qui est relaté dans l'article).
Si tu ne connais pas trop le dossier, l'émission de ce soir sur Arte est peut-être bien.
Voilà une bibliographie de ces mesures, ce qui ne représente qu'une petite partie des travaux scientifiques sur le linceul de Turin:
1. Accetta, J.S. and J.S. Baumgart, "Infrared Reflectance Spectroscopy and Thermographic Investigations of the Shroud of Turin," Applied Optics, Vol. 19, No. 12, pp. 1921-1929.
2. Avis, C., D. Lynn, J. Lorre, S. Lavoie, J. Clark, E. Armstrong, and J. Addington, "Image Processing of the Shroud of Turin," IEEE 1982 Proceedings of the International Conference on Cybernetics and Society, October 1982, pp. 554-558.
3. Devan, D. and V. Miller, "Quantitative Photography of the Shroud of Turin," IEEE 1982 Proceedings of the International Conference on Cybernetics and Society, October 1982, pp. 548-553.
4. Ercoline, W.R., R.C. Downs, Jr. and J.P. Jackson, "Examination of the Turin Shroud for Image Distorions," IEEE 1982 Proceedings of the International Conference on Cybernetics and Society, October 1982, pp. 576-579.
5. Gilbert, R., Jr. and M.M. Gilbert, "Ultraviolet-Visible Reflectance and Fluorescence Spectra of the Shroud of Turin," Applied Optics, Vol. 19, No. 12, pp. 1930-1936.
6. Heller, J.H. and A.D. Adler, "Blood on the Shroud of Turin," Applied Optics, Vol. 19, No. 16, 1980, pp. 2742-2744.
7. Heller, J.H. and A.D. Adler, "A Chemical Investigation of the Shroud of Turin," Canadian Society of Forensic Sciences Journal, Vol. 14, No. 3, 1981, pp. 81-103.
8. Jackson, J.P., E.J. Jumper and W.R. Ercoline, "Three Dimensional Characteristic of the Shroud Image," IEEE 1982 Proceedings of the International Conference on Cybernetics and Society, October 1982, pp. 559-575.
9. Jackson, J.P., E.J. Jumper, and W.R. Ercoline, "Correlation of Image Intensity on the Turin Shroud with the 3-D Structure of a Human Body Shape," Applied Optics, Vol. 23, No. 14, 1984, pp. 2244-2270.
10. Jumper, E.J. and R.W. Mottern, "Scientific Investigation of the Shroud of Turin," Applied Optics, Vol. 19, No. 12, 1980, pp. 1909-1912.
11. Jumper, E.J., "An Overview of the Testing Performed by the Shroud of Turin Research Project with a Summary of Results," IEEE 1982 Proceedings of the International Conference on Cybernetics and Society, October 1982, pp. 535-537.
12. Jumper, E.J., A.D. Adler, J.P. Jackson, S.F. Pellicori, J.H. Heller and J.R. Druzik. "A Comprehensive Examination of the Various Stains and Images on the Shroud of Turin," Archaeological Chemistry III, ACS Advances in Chemistry No. 205, J.B. Lambert, Editor, Chapter 22, American Chemical Society, Washington D.C., 1984, pp. 447-476.
13. Miller, V.D. and S.F. Pellicori, "Ultraviolet Fluorescence Photography of the Shroud of Turin," Journal of Biological Photography, Vol. 49, No. 3, 1981, pp. 71-85.
14. Morris, R.A., L.A. Schwalbe and J.R. London, "X-Ray Fluorescence Investigation of the Shroud of Turin," X-Ray Spectrometry, Vol. 9, No. 2, 1980, pp. 40-47.
15. Mottern, R.W., R.J. London and R.A. Morris, "Radiographic Examination of the Shroud of Turin - A Preliminary Report," Materials Evaluation, Vol. 38, No. 12 pp. 39-44.
16. Pellicori, S.F., "Spectral Properties of the Shroud of Turin," Applied Optics, Vol. 19, No. 12, pp. 1913-1920.
17. Pellicori, S. and M.S. Evans, "The Shroud of Turin Through the Microscope," Archaeology, January/February 1981, pp. 34-43.
18. Pellicori, S.F. and R.A. Chandos, "Portable Unit Permits UV/vis Study of 'Shroud'," Industrial Research and Development, February 1981, pp. 186-189.
19. Schwalbe, L.A. and R.N. Rogers, "Physics and Chemistry of the Shroud of Turin, A Summary of the 1978 Investigation," Analytica Chimica Acta, Vol. 135, 1982, pp. 3-49.
20. Schwortz, B.M., "Mapping of Research Test-Point Areas on the Shroud of Turin," IEEE 1982 Proceedings of the International Conference on Cybernetics and Society, October 1982, pp. 538-547.
In addition to the above listed papers published in refereed scientific journals, four additional articles written by STURP members and published in other publications are included: (There probably are more of these).
21. Bucklin, Robert, "The Shroud of Turin: a Pathologist's Viewpoint," Legal Medicine Annual, 1982. (No page numbers available)
22. Dinegar, Robert Hudson. "The Shroud of Turin - A Look at the Overall Picture," The Living Church, May 17, 1981, pp. 9-11.
23. Jumper, E.J., K. Stevenson, Jr., and J.P. Jackson. "Images of Coins on a Burial Cloth?," The Numismatist, July 1978, pp. 1349-1357.
24. Miller, V., and D. Lynn, "De Lijwade Van Turjin," Natuur en Techniek, February 1981, pp. 102-125.
At the suggestion of Larry Schwalbe, I am including some additional refereed articles describing work that builds on the 1978 investigation. Larry explained, "...we learned in Turin that the image is a product of cellulose degradation, so a few of us studied thermal processes for a while":
25. John P. Jackson, Eugene Arthurs, Larry A. Schwalbe, Ronald M. Sega, David E. Windisch, William H. Long, and Eddy A. Stappaerts, "A New Tool for Cellulose Degradation Studies," Materials Issues in Art and Archaeology: Symposium held April 6-8, 1988, Reno, Nevada, U.S.A., Ed. Edward V. Sayre et al., Materials Research Society 123, pp. 311-316 (1988 ).
26. John P. Jackson, Eugene Arthurs, Larry A. Schwalbe, Ronald M. Sega, David E. Windisch, William H. Long, and Eddy A. Stappaerts, "Infrared Laser Heating for Studies of Cellulose Degradation," Appled Optics 27(18 ), 3937-3943 (1988 ).
Larry goes on, "...also Bob Dinegar (STURP Team Member) and I presented some thoughts about what could be learned from isotopic measurements of the cloth in":
27. R. H. Dinegar and L. A. Schwalbe, "Isotope Measurements and Provenance Studies of the Turin Shroud," in Archaeological Chemistry IV, Ed. Ralph O. Allen, Advances in Chemistry Series 220 (American Chemical Society: Washington, DC, 1989) Chapter 23.
Larry concluded, "As I said, these papers do not deal directly with the data collected in 1978. Instead, the work was intended to serve as background to support a future investigation that we thought was still possible in the late 80s. There are probably more papers like these. Perhaps including these will flush out more such information".
Although many years have passed since I created this list, I felt it was important to add the following peer reviewed paper in January 2005. This paper provides critical new information about the sample used for carbon 14 dating of the Shroud in 1988:
28. Raymond N. Rogers, "Studies on the radiocarbon sample from the Shroud of Turin," Thermochimica Acta Vol. 425, Issues 1-2, 20 January 2005, Pages 189-194
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