Mais bien sur....

Réponse de Mr Strat '57... Il y croit en plus


Je vous remercie pour votre e-mail.
Le produit est en excellente condition de travail et il est pleinement opérationnel.
J'ai pris bien soin d'elle comme vous pouvez le voir sur les photos mais maintenant je viens de le vendre
parce que je ne pas plus besoin. Le produit est avec moi dans le Royaume-Uni.
S'il vous plaît laissez-moi savoir si vous êtes intéressé.

Merci!

Paul Lebret
28 Old Lane
Oldham
OL9 7JB
United Kingdom



I thank you for your e-mail.
The product is in excelent working condition and it is fully operational .
I have taken good care of it as you can see from the pictures but now i have to sell it because i do
not need it anymore . The product is with me in United Kingdom .
Please let me know if you are further interested .

Thank you !

Paul Lebret
28 Old Lane
Oldham
OL9 7JB
United Kingdom

Si tu avais lu un peu plus haut tu aurais vu que j'ai reçu la meme réponse ..
et voici la suite apres lui avoir demandé de pouvoir examiner la guitare sur place:



Hello ,

Thank you for your e-mail .
Because i am a very busy person i won't be able to sell you personaly the product so for this reason i will find a professional delivery company that will take care of the delivery of the product to your address . The price includes the delivery taxes .
Please let me know if you are further interested .

Thank you .


j'ai donc demandé comment se passe le paiement et voici la réponse (tres longue):


Hello ,

I Thank you for your e-mail.
I'll send the product to your address using a professional delivery company .
We will make our business through a third party Company . In this way both of us will have the assurance that we need.

Dealing with a third party means dealing with a neutral party , a company that verifies if the product is sent and corresponds to what seller agreed with the buyer and releases the money only after the merchandise was accepted by the buyer .

You will have 2 days to test the product and if you will find any kind of mechanical , esthetical or legal problems you can send it back with no expenses from your part and you will receive your deposit back in the same day from the delivery agent . I will receive the payment after you will accept the product so your money will be safe in the company's custody .
The product will reach your address in 2 days .
The price includes all the delivery costs so all that you have to pay for this deal is the product's price .
You will receive a tracking number from the delivery company that you will be able to verify on their website so you can be up to date with the status of delivery date.
All that you have to do before delivery is to proceed with the payment for the product which you have to send to Spedition Company . This deposit will remain on hold ,the money will be blocked at the company until you will receive the product .
Before you make the payment you will receive from the delivery company the legal documents for our deal such as Sales Contract , Purchase Order , Invoice ,Quantum View Notify(TM) Ship Notification , so that you may see that the product is in their custody and that everything is legitimate and legal.
You will receive the payment information from the delivery company so that you can confirm payment for the product . You will do the payment for the product on the delivery company's bank account so your money will be safe . The amount will remain in the shipping company's custody until the product reaches your address and until you agree that you want to keep the product . Only after you will receive and accept the product , only then the delivery company will give me money . If after receiving the product you will not be satisfied with it , you will receive a full refund imediately from the delivery agent and the product will be delivered back to my address on my expense. This clause will be written on the Sales Contract that we will both sign so everything will be secured .
The delivery will start immediately after you will confirm the payment , and it will reach
your address in 2 days .
If you're ready to start this deal with me then please send me the following:
- Your full name
- Your full address
I'll start making all arrangements with the delivery company as soon as i receive this information with you.
Thank you!

Etape suivante apres avoir donné un nom et une adresse bidon :

Hello ,

I have chosen to sell my Fender through Top Cargo Ltd .
Here is their website : http://www.top-cargo-online.co.cc/
They are a very well known Company that is acting worldwide. This is a safe transaction.
We will have legal documents between us such as Sales Contract , Purchase Order , Invoice ,Quantum View Notify(TM) Ship Notification and i will also give you a copy of my ID as guarantee to see that i don't have nothing to hide, that i'm a serious person . Please find attached my scanned ID .
Also you will receive a tracking number that you will be able to check on the delivery company's website daily so that you can keep up to date with our deal .
You will proceed with the payment only after you have received all the documents and you have signed the Sales Contract so that our deal can be completely secured .
The deposit will remain at them until you will receive and inspect the Fender .

As i have informed you , after the Fender will reach your address you will be able to check it as you like and if the Fender is ok .If you will not be satisfied with the Fender then you will receive a full refund from the delivery agent .You will have 2-5 days to test the Fender .
I am ready to go at the delivery company to start all the arrangements with the delivery company and all that i need from you is your confirmation that you are ready to start this deal with me .
Thank you !

j'ai dis : Ok..j'attends la suite

En effet, j'ai pas lu jusqu'en haut
La prose, qu'il t'a balancé, il veux la vendre sa pelle virtuelle

sinon bienvenue au club des papas du vendredi 13..mais moi ça remonte ;-)

Image d'accueil du site pour l'envoi...

Worldwide shipping and escro services.
Il est au moins honnête sur ce point.

Merci

Bonjour messieurs , je suis tombé sur votre forum par hasard en suivant les traces du fameux Mr Paul Lebret . Ce monsieur a mis en vente des enceintes haut de gamme qui valent 25 000 euros la paire neuves ( et qui ne peuvent pas avoir plus de deux ans ) pour la modeste somme de 3200 euros . Valeur occasion ( 13000 - 18000 euros ).
[url]http://www.leboncoin.fr/vi/90147682.htm?ca=12_s
Vu le prix il ne pouvait s'agir que d'une arnaque , j'ai donc décidé de voir ou ça menait ... Il m'a envoyé EXACTEMENT la même réponse qu'a vous ( a la virgule près , pour un article différent ! ) J'ai essayé de l'avoir au téléphone pour lui poser des questions précises sur le produit , il m'a répondu que puisqu'il était au travail il ne pouvait communiquer que par mail . Suite a mon dernier mail plein de ces questions précises , lieu , date , montant d'achat , pourquoi son annonce le plaçait a Tours , et pourquoi ce prix là , plus de nouvelles ... Il m'a même envoyé un scan de sa carte d'identité ! Si de votre coté vous avez d'autres renseignements sur le zozo ça m'intéresserai ( avant de filer son dossier a la brigade de répression des fraudes quoi ... )

non, en fait, ça ça n'a rien à voir!! Ca nous fait sourire en français, mais "escrow" en anglais, c'est bien un service de tiers de confiance!!
... ce qui ne retire évidemment rien au fait que ce type-là est de toute évidence un escroc, lui...