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bobofran a écrit :
Il y a deux vieilles démos de 86 il me semble pour november rain, une piano et une guitare. Ainsi qu'une très aboutie de don't cry.

J'aurais été curieux d'entendre Adler sur l'intro de ycbm ... Car cette intro est pour moi la contribution majeure de sorum.


https://www.blabbermouth.net/n(...)mine/


Il me semblait que Duff jouait la plupart des drums sur UYI...?


Euh, c’est Steven Adler qui est derrière les fûts sur Civil War, pas Duff...
bobofran
nberf a écrit :
PP a écrit :
bobofran a écrit :
Il y a deux vieilles démos de 86 il me semble pour november rain, une piano et une guitare. Ainsi qu'une très aboutie de don't cry.

J'aurais été curieux d'entendre Adler sur l'intro de ycbm ... Car cette intro est pour moi la contribution majeure de sorum.


https://www.blabbermouth.net/n(...)mine/


Il me semblait que Duff jouait la plupart des drums sur UYI...?


Euh, c’est Steven Adler qui est derrière les fûts sur Civil War, pas Duff...


Oui bien sur ! J'ai cru lire Adler ou alors c'est mes yeux ! lol

Duff lui a enregistré pas mal de bartterie sur son 1er solo ...
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Laurent_Barre
Ça balance à tout va dans la biographie de Matt Sorum qui circule en pdf, un vrai geyser de boue dans la face de FatAxl, Salsh et Puff mais une mine d'or pour les fans !! C'est du LOURD.

Fichier complet: https://www77.zippyshare.com/v(...).html


I continued to call Duff, but he was constantly evading me, and I realized he wasn’t telling the truth. “Duff, what’s going on?” I said.
“Well, Axl wants to use his drummer (Frank Ferrer)” he said. “But the guy can’t even play the drums. I’ve gotta talk to Axl and say I really can’t play with this guy.”
“Wait! Back up!” I said. “What do you mean you don’t think he’s very good? And you can’t fucking tell Axl? That would be the first thing I’d say if I was the bass player and you were the drummer. Why do you think I
asked you to play in the Vampires? Because you’re my favorite bass player.”
“Come on, man.”
“No. . . . Go to Axl and tell him you want me on drums. Period. Now’s the time.”
“Oh, man,” Duff said, his voice kind of shrinking. “I already signed the deal.”
“What deal?”
But he didn’t want to say any more.


I stared at him, at a loss for what to say. After a while, I said, “One good thing about all this is that Izzy and I started hanging out again.”
As the words left my mouth, Duff got a dark look in his eye. “Fuck Izzy!” he snapped.
I knew his reaction was because of Izzy turning them down, so I calmly said, “Well . . . Izzy says fuck you too.”
Duff didn’t reply. Instead, he just poked at his food—he didn’t really seem hungry—and then checked his watch and said, “I’ve gotta go.”
“Where?” I asked.
“Rehearsal.”
“Rehearsal? Didn’t you guys just get off a three-month tour? Why are
you rehearsing?”
“Because we don’t have you on drums,” Duff said.
We got up. As we were leaving the restaurant, two guys came over to
us, wanting to take photos.
Duff froze and explained that it wasn’t the right moment. I
immediately knew why: he was afraid Axl would find out he had been to see me.
Out on the street, Duff awkwardly tried to hug me again, then he walked over to his car and drove away. In that moment, he felt like a complete stranger to me, like someone I didn’t know at all. But maybe I was the one who had changed, and he was the same as ever?
What I do know for sure is that our friendship wasn’t the only thing that had ended—our twenty-eight-year musical partnership was over too. I wouldn’t be able to call him or Slash and ask if they wanted to play with me.



"Around this time, I got hold of a giant block of heroin. I discovered that I had it after one of the gigs, but I didn’t remember how I actually got my hands on it. It was a huge lump, the size of an extra-large Hershey’s bar, and it was pure opium. As I tried it on the plane one day, Axl noticed the smell. Slash loved heroin, so he was already with me. Duff was too, though he was sticking to his coco puffs—cigarettes in which the tobacco had been mixed with coke. Axl came over to join us. We had a piece of tinfoil and held a lighter beneath it, using a straw to inhale the smoke. It made us feel kind of calm and happy, and we decided to meet up the next day to do more of the same. This time we were in Axl’s hotel room, sitting in a circle on the floor and basically passing the piece of tinfoil around.
We were really chipping away at the block, but the thing about heroin is that it’s really addictive. A few days later, Axl called me. “Do you have any more of that shit? Would you come over?” I went to his room, and we spent the whole night talking. The bar of heroin lasted a few weeks, and since Axl was digging it, I managed to become really close with him. It didn’t affect his voice or anything, and we were getting along great. Or we were until he called me up one day, and asked, “Are we out?” “Yeah, I’m out.” He hung up on me without saying good-bye or anything. And that was it, the end of our bonding session. We went from being best pals—albeit with a friendship based on drugs—to me not being his buddy anymore.:"


I ended up in the limo with Axl and
Stephanie. Axl was on one side, I was on the other, and Stephanie was in
the middle. He was so in love with her he used to go on and on about her
all the time; it was all Stephanie this, Stephanie that. When she eventually
broke up with him, it was brutal. He was really fucked up. But on that
particular evening, they were head over heels for one another, which is
why what happened next was so weird.
There was a large group of fans outside the car, trying to get Axl’s
autograph, and he rolled down the window. He was puffing on the cigarette
that was always in his mouth, but it was in a 1920s-style cigarette holder
for an extra eccentric look. He began signing pictures, album covers, and
other assorted things.
As I sat there, I suddenly felt Stephanie’s hand on my dick, and next
thing I knew, she had started rubbing my balls. I froze, kind of petrified,
but she just looked at me and smiled. She was ridiculously beautiful. Axl
was looking out of the window, and she just kept doing what she was doing
until he eventually turned back around.
A few days later, I told Duff about it: “Dude, I have to tell somebody.
Stephanie Seymour rubbed my balls right in front of Axl!”
Duff said, “It’s so weird you say that, because she grabbed me and
made out with me!”
“When?”
“I was at the soundboard, watching Metallica, and she came out with a
couple of other girls. She just grabbed me, started making out with me. I
think she would fuck all of us if she could!”
DonatRayI
Perso leur musique m’intéresse, le reste ? Rien à branler !
Laurent_Barre
DonatRayI a écrit :
Perso leur musique m’intéresse, le reste ? Rien à branler !

Leur musique est médiocre, c'est le reste qui est amusant.

Ce qui est certain c'est que le livre de Sorum fait marrer tout le monde, sauf les cons sans humour : https://www.gunsnfnroses.com/t(...)ments

DonatRayI
Les cons avec humour sans doute aussi ?
Laurent_Barre
La musique n'est pas la même si c'est un tocard qui joue la batterie à la place de Sorum ou Adler : c'est intéressant de savoir pourquoi le groupe se contente d'un tocard plutôt que de reprendre Sorum ou Adler...
Le livre est donc très pertinent aussi du point de vue musical.
Laurent_Barre
Grâce à Matt Sorum, on apprend que l'as des claviers Dizzy Reed a fécondé trois femmes pendant le UYI Tour, saluons la performance.


Dizzy Reed was involved, but he might spend a month just hanging out at the rehearsal space, not achieving a thing; he even slept on the couch there. He took all the shit, and was like, “What other rock ’n’ roll bands are looking for a
piano player?” Then I guess he decided it was better to keep quiet and do
as he was told.
Or maybe it was just because he had to pay child support to
the three different women he’d gotten pregnant during the Use Your
Illusion tour.


Izzy Stradlin
Tous les membres de ce groupe ont publié tellement de bullshit depuis 35 ans sur leurs collègues... qu'on ne croit plus rien ni personne.
bobofran
Donc SS serait une grosse chaudasse ! c'est le truc le plus intéressant !

Après, prendre Adler sur la tournée que tu risques de retrouver clamsé dans un coin du backstage ou Sorum qu'Axl ne peut pas blairer, çà ne me parait pas des options meilleures que Ferrer au final ... même si les 2 font partie de l'histoire de GNR.

Je cherche une version entière de Hardshool/Checkmate et le rip de YT a une qualité de merde ... en fait j'ai raté les 3-4 derniers leaks, si quelqu'un à çà dans un coin ...

De mon coté, si vous cherchez une concert en MP3, de mémoire j'en ai plus de 300 entre 85-93 ... Et quelques uns post 2000 !
Dernier son : Compilation Mr PSYCHO ROCK Vol.1 : https://youtu.be/cL_hs5SN3R4?f(...)hared

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Laurent_Barre
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Je cherche une version entière de Hardshool/Checkmate et le rip de YT a une qualité de merde ... en fait j'ai raté les 3-4 derniers leaks, si quelqu'un à çà dans un coin ...


J'ai pas ! J'ai perdu tout mes fichiers en bousillant mon ordi, pour me consoler il me reste juste le pavé de Sorum jeté dans la mare pleine de caca.

Une perle sur Ronnie :

The next night, it was time for our first gig. Ronnie Wood was there,backstage, and one of us said, “Ronnie, you want to come up and play‘Knocking on Heaven’s Door’ with us?” “Oh yeah, I know that one, yeah, yeah” he said.“Cool,” said Slash. “It’s really easy, like three chords—G, D, C, and A minor.”“Oh, A minor,” said Ronnie, “the saddest of all the chords.”Ronnie’s appearance onstage was memorable to say the least. During the first eight bars, he just walked around the stage with his guitar hanging from his shoulder and a cigarette at one corner of his mouth. Then he went over to Slash and put an arm around him, nodding at the crowd. He moved on to Duff after that, and did the same there. When he finally played a chord, it was the wrong one. In fact, he didn’t play a single chord right—three chords, and they were all wrong. But he looked cool as shit.
bobofran
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bobofran a écrit :


Je cherche une version entière de Hardshool/Checkmate et le rip de YT a une qualité de merde ... en fait j'ai raté les 3-4 derniers leaks, si quelqu'un à çà dans un coin ...


J'ai pas ! J'ai perdu tout mes fichiers en bousillant mon ordi, pour me consoler il me reste juste le pavé de Sorum jeté dans la mare pleine de caca.


Si veux récupérer des trucs ... ; )
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Il y a 2 ans... j'y étais d'ailleurs, super concert avec deux génies à la guitare... vivement un nouvel album avec ces deux la!
Tbx
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J'y étais aussi à Bordeaux, à part la température affreuse c'était super.


Par contre je vois qu'un génie. Fortus est très bon mais il n'a pas marqué l'histoire de la musique, n'a pas composé de riff ou de solo mythique.

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